Happy Holidays!!!

I just wanted to wish everyone a happy and safe holiday season. We are just days before the end of the year 2007. Due to my unexpected illness, I was unable to do any posting or updates.

This was very unexpected, since I was baking and doing a little cooking on Christmas Eve till 1 a.m. At that late hour, it really hit me with possibly a virus going around. I'm a little bit better today though.

I should be back to updating and posting tomorrow. There is some interesting things going on, a possible scandal, 2008 plans, and 2008 primaries coming up.

Speaking of 2008 primaries. I plan on announcing a candidate i plan on supporting and voting for this primary and presidential 2008 election. I plan on posting it by Friday, or Monday day before New Year's day. I will say this it will NOT be any candidate from the GOP clown car, as fellow blender Pam says. So it will not be a republican, it's down to the democrats.

It's going to one or the other? That's right, Hillary or Obama. It's tough, but i may have made my decision. I'm high on women's rights, and equal-footing with men when it comes to Hillary. For Obama, he shows me he has a vision for America, and gives his supporters hope. I'll tell you this, he would be so much better than current President Bush. Bush has 12 months left, don't let the door hit you, i hope it does, and give that old a** a good hit.

Back to Obama, he has what it take, despite all the claims he's inexperience. On gay civil rights, both Hillary and Obama are pretty even. So if one gets in office, and we have a Democratic Congress, which we will, expect the hate crimes bill and EDNA to pass and become law. Both hate crimes bill and EDNA are two important pieces of legislation that needs to be pass and end this nonsense of debate. The only ones arguing against are the ones who need so one to beat on in America. Since women, blacks, and Jews are a no-no. Then the gays, and transgenders are fair game.

On Marriage Equality, both Obama and Hillary are supporting civil unions as equal to marriage, but it's not. It's close to the concept of marriage, but it's not enough for me, so I'll deal with this political strategy for the time being. When it comes to Civil rights, our executive, and legislative branches always stall on social issues as this. So it only takes the U.S Supreme court to get involve, but due to Bush appointing conservative Justices, there's not enough votes, probably just 3 0r 4 the most. So this next election is important, with a Democrat in office you can expect a U.S Justice to get the job through a regular process, instead the last two being supported by major religious right leaders as Godly appointments. Pa-leeze, religion is starting to become a addiction, that really needs some help.

So, I'll make those announcements soon. Updates and Posting should be up tomorrow!!!

A Holiday Return for Justice MH!!!

I'm finally back after technical difficulities that unfortunately happen at the begininng of week.
It's time for Christmas already, and I feel like i don't even want gifts. I guess when you get older you get out of:"I want presents".

Anyway, since my busy week is over and I have been absent from my site, which I didn't like one bit, but sacrifices must be made.

So I'll have updates and posts monday morning. I might start as early as tomorrow.

It's good to be back as usual blogging!

Truth Wins Out: - Fighting the "Ex-Gay Fraud"!!!

I'm ending my long hiatus. I found this video with true knowledge of how to confront the "ex-gay fraud" with truth, sound science, and research. Here's a look at the mission and creed of truth wins out:

Mission: Truth Wins Out.org is a non-profit organization that counters right wing propaganda, exposes the "ex-gay" myth and educates America about gay life.

Creed: Truth Wins Out.org is resolute in its belief that ex-gay programs are a politically motivated fraud designed to exploit vulnerable clients for financial gain and pass anti-gay legislation. Attempts to change sexual orientation are patently offensive, discriminatory by definition, theologically shaky, uniformly unsuccessful and medically unsound. Truth Wins Out.org firmly believes that ex-gay programs can damage families, lower self-esteem, generate guilt and shame and sometimes lead to suicide. The organization holds as self-evident that the world would be a better place without ex-gay programs, which are an unnecessary and destructive hindrance to the natural coming out process.

Truth Wins Out.Org aims to end the dangerous practice of ex-gay therapy in all of its injurious forms. The organization will tirelessly advocate against such programs, vigorously disseminate educational material, and doggedly pursue actions that will help undermine the so-called ex-gay myth.

It's damaging to change what is not based the human standard of society and religious dogma!

Watch the video! Enjoy.

[Updates/posts tomorrow and weekend!-Justice MH]

B. Scott Talks About The Gays In The Church (lovebscott.com)

B.Scott in his latest video talks about gays in the church. This subject is so interesting, and certainly not old.

Gays are everywhere, even in the church. From the preacher to the deacon, to the choir director to the usher, and the church memeber.

Homosexuality just as heterosexuality is present in the church, families, choirs, and many communities. In fact, it's been here as long as humans been here.

The whole Donnie McClurkin situation is old, but still a big issue. I agree with B.Scott, he was gay before his abuse, and that's our view.

Another thing, people always say God can do anything. Yes, I know God can do anything. But God will undo what God has done in the first place. Fact is, sexual orientation has not been proven to be changable, and that's a fact. The whole Ex-gay industry is base on base-less science, and dogmatic religious views.

So like B.Scott said: One a gay, always a gay!!!

The video with B.Scott is everything I would say. Enjoy!!!

700 Club:Fundamentalists claim I-35 Can Stop Homosexuality and other things!!!

From the video Author:A report on Pat Robertson's 700 Club describes a supposed prophecy that is being fulfilled through the interstate highway system. A youth-oriented group is allegedly harnessing the power of I-35 to "heal" gays.

Is it just me or is fundamentalist christians and fundamentalist period are getting nutter? Is must be just me. The bible verse is kindy far-fetch if you ask me when refering to I-35.

Well, I-35 refers to (supposedly) to Isaiah, Chapter 35. Verse 8 states: 8

And a highway will be there;
it will be called the Way of Holiness.
The unclean will not journey on it;
it will be for those who walk in that Way;
wicked fools will not go about on it.

Now the verse above isn't clear that it refers to I-35, it's simply not a clear interpretation. Another example on how many christians take bible verses out of context, especial historical and cultural context!

It's no surprise their harassing gays outside a gay bar, and claiming in the video that all of sudden just because they touch somebody their no longer gay? Sounds something like Ted Haggard story to me.

If the laying on hands work, well what about the other gays there, or did the power all of sudden dry up from only person? Stories like this always sound like full of holes, and just bizarre!

Pat Robertson enjoyed every minute of it and said he loves stories. I love stories, and I really mean stories!

Anyway, check out the video! Enjoy.

2007's World HIV/AIDS Day!!!

I know I'm late talking about World Aids Day 2007, but I wanted to write something before the weekend of World AIDS day is over. This disease is a world crisis that affects everyone from straight to gay, young to old, babies to children, and many races.


The HIV/AIDS epidemic began early in 1981. The month July of that year, the New York Times reported an outbreak of a rare form of cancer among gay men in New York and California. This "gay cancer" as it was called at the time was later identified as Kaposi's Sarcoma, a disease that later became the face of AIDS. But as you will see everything is not as it seems.

When the Centers for Disease Control reported the new outbreak they called it "GRID" (gay-related immune deficiency), stigmatizing the gay community as carriers of this deadly disease. Then there were cases that started to be seen in heterosexuals, drug addicts, and people who received blood transfusions, proving the virus/disease knew no boundaries. Now, it's no longer a so=called "GRID", the disease doesn't have any boundaries, or favorite group of people it attacks with illness.

HIV/AIDS here longer than 25 years???

HIV/AIDS is being said to be 25 years old, but it has been reported to be here longer than that.It is believed that the syndrome[AIDS] has been around far longer. In 1959, a man residing in Africa died of a mysterious illness. Only decades later, after examining some blood samples taken from that man, was it confirmed that he actually died from complications related to an HIV infection.

Now the question is how it enter in America? The fact is gays have already been here in America, so that base-less assumption is ridiculous and bizarre! Some researchers say a immigrant from another country may have brought it into the country?

So where did HIV/AIDS come from and it's origins? Experts have concluded that HIV has it origins in the jungles of Africa among wild chimps. Experts go on to report that evidence suggests that the simian form of HIV (SIV) entered the human species and became HIV by way of monkey bites or ingesting monkey meat and brains. While the origins of HIV are more clear,the thing is pointing fingers at the gay community, and saying that community is the source, has no research or evidence to back that hypothesis up. It is NO theory! Which brings me to address a certain blogger: The Captain

He says:WHY WOULD ANYONE EMBRACE A LIFESTYLE THAT WILL MORE THAN LIKELY HAND YOU A DEATH SENTENCE IN BEING INFECTED WITH HIV/AIDS?

Justice MH: Well, why would anyone embrace the lifestyle of a heterosexual, drug addict, or get a blood transfusion that can give HIV/AIDS? You see, your ignorance is no longer amusing, but pathetic , and just plain sad. Do you ask heterosexual this question? Oh yeah, you keep pointing fingers at the gay community. Well its thinking like that which enables the disease to spread if everyone is NOT making sure their behaviors are safe. Since putting the information in the early eighties that it was a white gay male disease: heterosexuals both black and white, also black gays believe this, and didn't take caution in their own behaviors. Like Queer kid of Color says: Responsibility is prevention of HIV/AIDS.

He gave another comment without a comment forum, what a coward:

It is amazing how homosexuals glamorize the gay lifestyle as something wonderful and grand when in reality, HIV/AIDS is the core of the gay community. I hear various gay activists trying to shift the focus of HIV/AIDS away from the gay community so they won't look like the culprits, but unfortunately people know the real truth. Now, the epidemic have spreaded in our heterosexual community, all to the thanks of the gay community.

If God really created and blessed homosexuality as an orientation that is acceptable and worthwhile then we wouldn't have sorrow and death. I don't care how many ways you try to slice and dice to justify homosexuality is right, if it was, then HIV/AIDS would not be killing our men and women off due to an filthy and perverse sexual choice, which is the largest driver of this infection growth. If sorrow comes with it, God never blessed it!

Justice MH: This whole comment is simply bias, ignorant, and full of mean-spirited as usual! No one that I know of is trying to shift the focus of HIV/AIDS, but it's not a gay thing. Culprits??? We have nothing to hide, and we're blame-less, so say what you want. What real truth is this? A bull-shitted truth. The heterosexual community started their own infection rate, unless their sleeping with gay males. It takes two to tangle, not a population of people with a different sexual orientation. God created homosexuality and it's blessed, no-matter how much you and other use narrow bible interpretations, a book that known to have errors, contradictions, and inconsistencies. Homosexuality has always been right, it's just those like you and sects of religions that try to prove it's wrong, and trying to use a imperfect holy books as a mouth piece for God. It's your only tool to make your opinions and views as facts. Which their not. Heterosexuals already have high rate base around the world, so is that a perverse sexual choice? Using HIV/AIDS as your argument is very poor in reason. It's your view that God never bless it, and it's bless regardless of what you say. So in the word of my friend and a woman I admire: Kiss off!

Remember everyone be responsible, and safe in this epidemic.

Note: For more on The Captain's gay self-loathing, and commentary on gay-related issues, click here

[ News and posting updates will be on Monday!!!-Justice MH]

Jesus Said Some Are Born Gay- Part One

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Yep, that's right. Jesus said that some people are simply born gay. So, stop hating, stop excluding, stop condemning, stop alienating, persecuting, reviling and murdering your homosexual brothers and sisters . . .

Justice MH: I'll more on this in part two of the video. Some may disagree, but the evidence is clear!

[More on this and updates news etc later today!!!!-Justice MH]

Video Preview:This Is What Love In Action Looks Like!!!

Filmmaker Morgan Jon Fox has released an extended preview for the feature-length documentary, “This Is What Love In Action Looks Like.” Video above.

According to the filmmaker:

In the summer of 2005, a 16-year-old from Memphis, Tenn., wrote on his MySpace blog about his parents sending him to a “Fundamentalist Christian” program that claimed to offer “freedom from homosexuality.” What followed is a modern-day message in a bottle, as teen-agers in the local community stood up for their friend with daily protests which eventually grew to include a plethora of individuals demonstrating at the facility in what would become an international news story.

The documentary features several former clients of the organization who tell their personal stories about the time they spent within the programs walls, including exclusive never before seen interviews with several teenagers who were forced into the “Refuge” program

Justice MH: I don't know why right-wing groups like Focus on the Family think in their mind all gays need is love, and the gay will just go away. The video gives a view of what kind of love is in action when trying help gay and lesbians change their change their sexual orientation, which is unsuccessful and hasn't been proven.

The sad thing about love in action is it gives guilt to the parents, and that is wrong on so many levels. Just because you have a gay son or daughter does not mean the parent made a mistake or did anything wrong in their child's life. The Parent argument, especially the mother, it is getting old, lame, and there is no scientific proof of what "love in action" says. I can't wait for the documentary, and try my best to find the love. But then again, what's love got to do with it?

This Is What Love In Action Looks Like will premiere in February 2008.

Judgement Day:Intelligent Design onTrial!!!

I have to say the Intelligent Design on Trial documentary is great, and I would watch it again.

I'm going to keep this short and sweet.

Intelligent Design does NOT belong in the science classroom. Intelligent Design is NOT science. It is simply religion being mask under science, and no one is fool by this.

Now you don't have to believe in Evolution, but you have to learn it to pass the Biology course.

Intelligent Design is just a way to get religion in public schools, and the people of Dover did NOT want that. This is a controversy issue, but the separation of church and state must be protected and secured.

Again, Science class is about science concepts, ideas, and theories. It is not about religious concepts, ideas or theories. Let's keep it at that.

Watch the first part of ntelligent Design on Trial above! Enjoy!

Ancient Jerusalem's Openly Gay High Priest!!!

Aristobulus III, that last of Hasmonean Dynasty to serve as High Priest in the temple in Jerusalem was apparently openly gay.

This would seem to contradict the presumed status of homosexuals according to Christendom.

Watch the video! Enjoy!

PPV Predictions: WWE's 21st Survivor Series!!!

This is a new monthly post I'm starting. This post will focus on WWE's monthly or every 3 week PPV. I have been a fan of wrestling for almost 8 years, and still loving it, even though wwe make stupid decision as in matches and storylines.

Moving on....... It's been ten years since the ever famous Montreal Screw job between Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart! Will Tonight's Survivor Series top that Main Event? I doubt it, but it will give us some moments to remember for years to come or a few days depending on how the show goes. By looking at the card, my predictions make be correct by luck, it's like a who's who on the card tonight. The two world title match seem like a toss-up, a clear winner can not been seen for the world or wwe title. I'm loving unpredictable matches tonight. Anyway, let me get right to tonight’s Survivor Series predictions.


10 Divas Tag Team Match –Team Beth Phoenix, Jillian Hall, Melina, Layla and Victoria vs.Team Mickie James Torrie Wilson, Maria, Michelle McCool and Kelly Kelly

This match is NOT a elimination match like the traditional 10-man match, but it should be good. It has the eye candy, and some of the divas in this match can wrestle. Let me say the women's champion Beth Pheonix has been dominating the women's divison on monday night raw. The Glamzon ain't no joke. Her team has the women who can wrestle like Jillian, melina, and victoria. Sorry, but Layla can not wrestle, she working on it, but she a long way to go. Team Mickie James along with Michelle will carry the team. Regardless, I see The Glamazon's team winning tonight. Her team has wrestling skills, experience, and strength.

Predicted Winners: Team Glamazon

Hornswoggle vs. The Great Khali

The Match of the night??? I don't think so, I know so is the better way to put it. They want to me to pay $40 for this??? Don't think so! I don't know where wwe is going with this. Why put a 7'3 giant against a 4 something little man??? I think wwe want the fans to think it's going to be a squash, so somebody or something will help Hornswoggle get the win. So I'm using logic and reason for this one.

Predicted Winner: Hornswoggle

World Tag Team Championship: Cade & Murdoch[c] vs. Rhodes & Holly

My gut feeling here is a title change, and the belts are to hardcore holly and Cody rodes. After cade and mourdoch lost to Batista and taker on raw this past Monday, and the build up of the tough team of Rhodes and holly, something is going to happen here. I say we're going to have new tag champs here!

Predicted Winners: New Tag Team Champions Rhodes and Holly

Triple Threat Match for the ECW Championship – CM Punk vs. John Morrison vs. The Miz

Ok, after this past friday night on smackdown, the winner is clear here: CM Punk wins and retains. The reason is Morrison and the Miz won the Smackdown Tag team belts. The wwe will not put second title on either on them. I don't see it happening, but then again it could. I'm sticking with what I said: CM Punk retain the title.

Predicted Winner: CM Punk Retains ECW World title

Traditional Survivor Series Elimination Match – Triple H, Jeff Hardy, Matt Hardy, Kane and Rey Mysterio vs. Umaga, Mr. Kennedy….Kennedy, Finlay, MVP, and Bid Daddy V

Ok, this one seems easily to predict, so I see Triple H's team winning. I see Triple H and Jeff Hardy and Rey Mysterio has the final three left or down to either of them as the last superstar to survive. Umaga's team is strong, but I don't see them winning or wwe could let the heels win this year. Damn, that could happen, but I will play it safe and pick.........

Predicted Winners: Triple's Team

WWE Championship Match- Randy Orton vs. Shawn Michaels

The ten year anniversary of Vince McMahon screwing Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels was in that main-event match. Some say Vince McMachon is going to do the very same thing to HBK by ringing the bell too soon, and giving Orton the win, but what if it’s Shawn Michaels and Vince that screw Randy Orton for the WWE Title??? I can see that happen, and totally heel turn for HBK and a face turn for Orton. Shawn Michaels has the major build up with the interview in the newspapers and online. But I'm playing it safe, and I'll pick Orton to retain the title.

Predicted Winner: Randy orton Retain WWE Title

World Heavyweight Champion Batista vs. Undertaker - Hell in a Cell Match

AH yes, the Main Event. It's Hell in Cell, and this match has history in it. I know that this match will close the show as the Main Event, and it deserves it. Batista and Undertaker's feud is the feud of the year. Edge is suppose to return tonight, so we could see a interference from him. I want Undertaker to win, but it doesn't look like it, not at this time. Edge is the wild card, but Batista could pull off like he did at Cyber Sunday last month. However, this is Hell in Cell and this is Undetaker's match. Again, My mind is on Edge, he may be a piece to the puzzle on who will win this match. I'm going with Batista to retain the title with Edge's help or by himself, but a Undertaker win in Hell in a Cell would not surprise me at all!!!

Predicted Winner: Batista retain World Title

Justice MH's Final Thoughts: Ok, this is my first prediction post, and there will be more. I also will start maybe reviewing the weekly show Friday Night Smackdown every week. So I haven't decided if I will order the PPV. Is this card worth $40? Something tell me no, and try the next PPV next month Armageddon! There's a couple of hours left till the show. I might change my mind or just keep myself updated on it, and then I could watch it for free. So the cards looks good, and I expect a great show!

Justice MH's Hiatus is Over for a Second Time!!!

I'm Back! The Site hasn't been updated this week, and it felt weird not blogging at all this.
The reason is I was too busy to do any posts. So I took a hiatus for the week

I will be back full-time this week on Monday. There's so much to blog about.
Tomorrow I will blog about a subject that hasn't been blog on here before!
It may surprise reader, but it's kindy out of left field!

So Check on that tomorrow as in Sunday!

"CHRISTIAN" RHETORIC, ACTION, AND SILENCE ARE KILLING PEOPLE!

By: Jerry Manker

[I hope everyone enjoy Jerry's commentary on bigotry and hate from self-professed christians, and how silence of speaking truth and living in one's truth is killing others! News and story updates from me later today-Justice MH]


"'Whether their sexual preference is to be a homosexual or being gay, that's their problem,' Da' Priest says. 'I'm the street, I'm the street priest, and I have real good Christian values on what I believe in, and I am against homosexuality.'" from Npr.org

I never heard of Dooney Da Priest, a songwriter! However, his above statement is crucial for every single decent person, and for everyone who considers him/herself to be a Christian, to read and understand.

Christianity has become defined in the minds of most people as being not only a judgmental religion, but the rhetoric, actions and/or silence and inaction on the part of all too many professing Christians and clergy has had the effect of equating being "Gay" with being "immoral" in the minds of others, including many, if not most, LGBT people.

The mantra that being Gay is equivalent to being immoral, and is against the will of God, has been spewed so often in and from most churches, and is believed by most clergy and church-goers within the institutional Church, that one can not only believe that lie, but one can feel free to hawk his/her "Christian" credentials by affirming his/her disdain for homosexuality; so many professing Christians can justify to others their homophobia by appealing to the fact that they are "Bible-believing Christians."

As you well know, I lay the lion's share of the blame for homophobia and its destructive consequences at the feet of the institutional Church! It has been responsible for untold suicides, bashings, and murders; it has been responsible for lives lived in quiet and not so quiet desperation; it has been responsible for fracturing families as well as fracturing human beings within their families.

As I've written:

"Make no mistake, every drop of blood shed by GLBT people either through suicide, bashing, or murder, are on the hands of all those religious leaders, their followers, and their allies who spew forth their ignorance, prejudice, and hate against GLBT people and their relationships! These wolves in sheep’s clothing take the Bible, God’s love letter to His children, and selectively and perversely use it as a club to condemn others, and deny GLBT people full inclusion in the Church and in society.

"The tradition-bound parts of the Church have so indoctrinated people, many of whom have never even set foot in a house of worship, that many people even disown their own children when they 'come out' and divulge their sexual orientation to those whom they thought unconditionally loved and cherished them. There are many children living on the streets because their own parents trusted ignorant clergy and their followers over their God-given duty and privilege to nurture and embrace their own children!

The Church should concentrate on the real sins that deserve our attention and that cry out to God for redress, such as invading another country on false pretenses; the working poor who can't afford medical insurance; the Supreme Court ruling that people can't sue their insurance company in state court for denying needed medical services; many elderly people having to decide whether to buy food or medicine; the gigantic rip off perpetrated by drug companies, hospitals, and the medical establishment on sick and vulnerable people. Why not focus on and address issues such as these, instead of obsessing on who loves who and who sleeps with whom? Such obsession tells us much more about the pathetic and moribund state of much of the Church than it does about the reality of the lives of GLBT people".

To the degree that any professing Christian can keep silent in the face of the grinding oppression and destruction of others, it is to that degree that he/she had better examine his/her claim to being a "Christian!"

Rev. Dr. Jerry S. Maneker is Professor Emeritus of Sociology at California State University, Chico.He is an ordained priest in the Congregational Catholic Church, a division of the Independent Catholic Churches International (ICCI}

Visit his site christianlgbtrights.org/

Message to Ex-gay activist Alan Chambers Stop telling Bald Faced Lies!!!

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Recently, on Fox's Mike and Juliet Show, ex-gay activist Alan Chambers called homosexuality "empty" and said that he "left homosexuality" because it was for the young - and that one day he'd be too old and bald to live open and honestly.

The truth is, the only thing "empty" is Mr. Chambers' shallow rhetoric. His organization, Exodus, often resorts to scare tactics and flat out lies to recruit new victims. This Truth Wins Out video challenges Alan Chambers and sets the record straight[no pun intended].

Justice MH: Let me add my 1.00 worth of wisdom and commentary. It's really sad Alan thinks age will make you fear and go straight. How desperate can you be to get new recruitments? And they accuse gays of recruiting? Speak for yourself! The ex-gay myth will be around for awhile, but it really has little to back up it's arguments of so-called change. Anyway, watch this video of Alan telling his latest ex-gay lie!

Enjoy!

The Myth: Casting out gay demons!!!

A coming out story is not peachy all the time. This young african lesbian woman share a coming out story with her mom casting out so-called demons when she tells her she's gay.

Take a look at the video above about the myth of gay demons, but demons are a myth period!

'Ex-Gay' Rubber Band Therapy Doesn't Work

The world's largest ex-gay organization, Exodus International tells clients to wear a rubber band on their wrist and snap it when they see someone attractive of the same sex. In this Truth Wins Out PSA, a survivor of rubber band "therapy," Brian Nesbitt, discusses his experience.

Here is what Exodus instructs its clients to do:

"Every time you catch yourself watching someone erotically or engaging in fantasy, snap the band. This will cause a moderate stinging pain, which serves as a shocking reminder of what you are doing. This should help you interrupt the spell."

- EXODUS INTERNATIONAL

Justice MH: Is this what really helps change? If so, then this is just silly concepts that have no basis or impact on the person's sexual orientation! Change is clearly a tough road, but is there any success? I don't think so, but at least they trying!

Watch the video! Enjoy!

Ex-gay Donnie McClurkin: "God delivered me from homosexuality"???

Now I'm looking at the headline, and see it's the same of old recipe for self-loathing gays! Ex-gay Donnie McClurkin attended Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama’s gospel concert in South Carolina this weekend, and decided to not only sing, but turn this spiritual gospel tour into a platform for the ex-gay myth and the pray away the gay myth!

CNN Transcript of Donnie McClurkin: “Jesus came for everybody. And God has called us to love everybody. Now don’t believe everybody tries to vilify a folk just to make another man’s campaign look bad. We believe that everybody should have the same rights. But there’s right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. [to audience] I don’t hear nobody here. We don’t believe in discrimination, we don’t believe in hatred. [to audience] I don’t hear anybody here. And if you do, you are in the wrong place at the wrong time. That’s the whole premise of God, that’s the whole premise of Christ–is Love Love Love. But there is a side of Christ that deals in judgement. And ALL sin, is against God. Even hypocrisy in the church, especially hypocrisy in the church.

Hallelujah. Everybody sittin’ here with baited breath wondering where I’m goin’ go next. Well, let’s make this plain. Let’s make this plain. Don’t call me a bigot, or anti-gay, when I have been touched with the same feelings. When I have suffered with the same feelings. Don’t call me a homophobe, when I love everybody. And that means I’m afraid, phobia means I’m afraid, I’m not afraid of anybody. Because greater is He that is in me. Don’t tell me that I stand up and say vile words against the gay community, because I don’t. I don’t speak against the homosexual. I tell you that God delivered me from homosexuality.

And no matter what you read on whatever blog you read it on. No matter what imaginary confession is given. Let me tell you the Bible says, that if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature. The old things, the old people, the old ways–passed away. And behold. [to audience] Somebody scream real loud.”

Many pro-tolerance advocates and myself have said we do NOT object to Donnie's choice to to identify as ex-gay and to refrain from homosexual behavior. They object because McClurkin:

1.told The 700 Club — a Christian media outlet — that same-sex-attracted persons are child-killers and vowed to wage “war” — not peace nor Christian outreach — against gay people

2.mischaracterizes his ongoing sexual attraction to men as if it were fully overcome and declines to discuss his lack of significant attraction to women

3.asserts that because a handful of individuals with unstable or fluid sexual attraction claim to change, anyone can do it!

Also, Obama tried to help the situation by having a gay pastor open the concert with a prayer, however it was not a black gay pastor or affirming black pastor, but a white gay pastor! According to CNN’s Political Ticker blog, Sidden appeared only briefly at the concert, before much of the audience had even arrived, and refrained from mentioning sexuality.

South Carolina African-American gay activist Alvin McEwen attended a small protest outside the concert and wrote his observations:

"No matter how many times it was emphasized that none of us care about McClurkin’s personal decisions regarding his orientation, folks have continued to claim that we are angry at McClurkin’s belief that he is “ex-gay” rather than his statements against the lgbt community".

Justice MH's Final Thoughts: Many and so have I that we do NOT have anything against Donnie for his choice to identify as ex-gay, and refrain from homosexual behavior! Now these are my deeper views and a closer look into his testimony. Donnie gave the same ole' "God delivered me from homosexuality" speech! Biblical deliverance is from something demonic controlling a person. Is Donnie saying his attractions and desires are from demons[demonic forces]? Now let me say I do NOT believe in demons, nor do they exist! So why in the year 2007 not 207 A.D, we have blind faithful religious people still believing in ancient fears and superstitious? It's amazing because there is NO proof of demons, but the Catholic Church still believes in this nonsense! Most likely to keep catholics in fear and unnecessary superstitious ways.

Back to Donnie, he told the crowd to not believe the blogs, but believe the bible. I kindy laugh a little at that. Don't ask, I laugh at about everything. Anyway, Donnie must be talking about that unknown ex-lover he had back in the mid 2002-2004! He recently came forward on
clay cane's blog! It appears Donnie has enter his closet, in the dark, and can't find the door knob! Do I believe Donnie about God supposedly delivering him? Ummm, most likely no! I think he's now celibate. Think about it: No wife, kids, or even a girlfriend! He's 49, i think. Damn Donnie, at least fool me about your sexuality. Am I upset about him no-longer acting on his same-sex attraction or maybe in private to become attracted to the opposite? No, I am not upset at all! I respect it, and wish the best. God is love, and it doesn't and shouldn't matter who we love. So Donnie shouldn't turn this concert into a platform to make it known he's ex-gay, and doesn't act on the attractions! All I can do is wish the best for him! I still support Sen. Obama, and he most likely has my vote over Sen.Clinton in the Georgia Primary!

Evening:Updates/Posts Later Today!!!

I will have posts up later in the evening! The main post of today will be on Ex-gay Donnie McClurkin performance at the Obama Gospel tour called "Embrace Change"! I think that's right!

Anyway, I may have a video up until updates and posts come! Someone[no one important] mention Donnie had the last say, I think not! You'll have to see what have to say about Donnie and his little audience, and of course everyday news!

Taking Monday Off!!!

I'm taking a long weekend, so today will be a rest day. I'll have updates and posts early tomorrow morning!

'The View' on the Ex-gay Donnie McCLurkin situation!!!

The ladies on the View tackled the issue about ex-gay Donnie McClurkin and it's particpation in the gospel tour for Democratic White house hopeful Sen. Barack Obama!

As usual Whoopi is pro-gay, and Sherri always shows her true conservative colors.

However I need to take a closer look at this. The lovely ladies are just misinform about Donnie. They should have done more research, hell google him!

I agree with Jeremy at Goodas you.org and how he puts it:

For it's not that he merely that he identifies as an "ex-gay" or that he says it's a "choice" that is causing controversy. It's instead that for the past few years, he has identified as quite the anti-gay. So shame on the gabby gals for not learning more facts before delving into this arena.

But beyond lack of research as to what McClurkin has actually done, there are two matters for discussion that we see in the vid:

(1) Is Whoopi saying she agrees that being gay is a "choice," or merely that she agrees people should be free to their privacy in terms of their personal life.

(2) Is Sherri seriously using words like "struggle" to talk about homosexuality, and likening that particular characteristic to things like promiscuity?
Now, we're going to give Whoopster the benefit of the doubt because (a) she's always been good on gay rights, and (b) there is room to assume that she was agreeing about one's right to keep their private life private, and not that being gay is a "choice." If her mind is that made up about the ability for one to pick and choose their orientation, then we do take issue with that. But from just this one comment, we can't be sure.

As for Sherri Shepherd, however -- what the hell?!?! We don't "struggle," Sherri. And our "manifestations" are not to be likened to things like promiscuity, which is a concept that exists in both orientations. We are human beings, not a set of trauma-induced traits! So how about instead of just accepting whatever anyone tells you in terms of nature vs. nurture, you look at some research, the evidence around you, and proceed to form your own "view" about the gay men and women who populate your world! Casual acceptance of the idea that "ex-gay" and "gay" claims hold equal merit is what that movement relies on.

You, Sherri, would surely view a claim that you are choosing not to "struggle" with heterosexuality with a (rightfully) skeptical eye. You owe it to your gay brothers and sisters to extend the same courtesy.

Justice MH: I agree with the above statements! Whoopi and sherri should study up stuff before talking about an issue, especially a gay isse. Damn, Oprah almost always gets it! Lastly, I'm have to keep a eye on Ms.Sherri, those conservative leanings do not make her look good.

Take a look at the video, and share thoughts~Justice MH

NBJC/HRC and Obama: Also Gay Pastor to open Gospel tour Shows!!!

It looks like this ain't over by a long shot. Something has to give! The National Black Justice Coaltion is already trying to set up a talk or meeting with Obama on black LGBTs concerns with inviting reclosted homosexual Donnie McClurkin! HRC has a press release out with HRC's Joe Solmonese on a phone call with Sen.Obama:

“I spoke with Sen. Barack Obama today and expressed to him our community’s disappointment for his decision to continue to remain associated with Rev. McClurkin, an anti-gay preacher who states the need to ‘break the curse of homosexuality.’ There is no gospel in Donnie McClurkin’s message for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people and their allies. That’s a message that certainly doesn’t belong on any Presidential candidate’s stage.”

“I did thank him for announcing he would be adding an openly gay minister as part of the tour and for his willingness to call on religious leaders to open a dialogue about homophobia. We hope that Sen. Obama will move forward and facilitate face to face meetings with religious leaders, like Rev. McClurkin, and the GLBT community to confront the issue of homophobia.”
“We also call on all of the Presidential campaigns to look within their ranks of supporters and make the same commitment to engage in a dialogue among differing views around issues of equality and fairness for our community.”
Rev. McClurkin, an “ex-gay” gospel singer and minister who has called homosexuality a “curse”, has repeatedly stated his opposition to homosexuality as being against “the intention of God.”
On August 9, Sen. Obama joined the leading Democratic presidential candidates in addressing issues important to the GLBT community at the Logo/HRC Foundation presidential forum in Los Angeles. During his interview with panelists Joe Solmonese, singer/activist Melissa Etheridge, and journalists Margaret Carlson and Jonathan Capehart, Sen. Obama addressed and the issue of homophobia in the black church

Justice MH: Now let me say: I don't believe in curses especially gays ones, or demons especially gay demons or spirits.

[Update]: Obama's team has their gay pastor to open his gospel shows. To be honest here I don't know anything about this man, here's his church bio:

A native of Winston-Salem, N.C., the Rev. Andy Sidden was called in March 2003 to serve as pastor of Garden of Grace United Church of Christ (formerly MCC Columbia). Ironically, his pastorate in South Carolina's Midlands began on his birthday!
Pastor Andy worked as a reporter and copy editor for newspapers in the Carolinas and Florida before entering the professional ministry. He worked more than eight years in Rock Hill, SC, where his son, daughter-in-law, and grandchildren live.

As a child, he joined Mock's United Methodist Church in Advance, NC. He attended Methodist Churches in the Carolinas and, shortly before returning to South Carolina, he served as an administrative assistant at Harvester United Methodist Church in Land O' Lakes, FL.

Pastor Andy entered the professional ministry in 1991 after serving in lay ministries at Metropolitan Community Churches in Charlotte and Raleigh, NC, and in Tampa, FL. He served as assistant to the pastor and later as associate pastor of MCC Tampa.

From 1994 to 2002, he served as pastor of Spirit of Life MCC in New Port Richey, FL, which grew during his leadership by more than 500 percent to become the 25th largest MCC in the world. During his pastorate, Spirit of Life completed a $350,000 building program and started a satellite mission in Spring Hill, FL. In 2002, he was MCC's first-ever nominee for regional elder.

He and his life partner of more than 20 years, Dr. Kevin Dove, share their home with three cats, a beagle, tropical fish, and a greenhouse filled with plants. Avid gardeners, they love to watch living things grow!

Under his leadership, Garden of Grace has nearly tripled in size and has build a $500,000 worship center.

Justice MH: This might help, but then again it could be a failure. Obama should have a more modern advance staff that knows about gay issues. I also like to point out is there no one on his staff that couldn't yahoo search or google supposely deliver Donnie McClurkin? This is a no win-win situation for Obama. I can look and get pass this if only Donnie just sings, and just sing. I agree with blender Pam : "For those of us who are black and gay, we're watching to see who has our back. Too often, it's no one". I agree that this was a mistake on Obama's team, so to LGBTs: don't be so quick to judge!

Ex-Gay Randy Thomas oppose Non-Discrimination Act!!!

Professsional Ex-gay Randy Thomas is [no surprise] opposing potential laws like ENDA to help stop bias in the work place. Also many conservative used Professional ex-gays like Randy thomas to prove gays can change their sexual orientation, but there is no proof for that, and randy is NO walking miracle.

Randy of course contradicts himself, he says we[gays] deserve dignity, and respect, but no right to keep our job just for being gay. I and many other have challenge many conservatives and right-wing groups/people to give three good reason why it shouldn't be law. There is already a exception for religion, so what are their three good reasons? I haven't seen any yet. All i've seen were silly statments falling out their mouth. Again, they can't even come up with good reasons.

Now how could I forget homobigot Bishop Harry Jackson. As you seen above, he's hosting the conference. Now the thing that strikes me odd about him being there is he said the National Black Justice Coaltion's Church Summit that he want to protect marraige. Like Larry King said: " how can you protect marriage from people who want to get married"?

Anyway, the reason I brought this up is he's now opposing EDNA and hate crime legislation. He gives incorrect reasons like his white conservative counterparts do. Like I said I'm surprise to see him. Bishop Jackson's hate crusade is now clearly seen by many black LGBTs and just LGBTs period.

The Religious right knows very well that the more pro-gay laws pass will not be good for their war on gays, and it will eventually no one else to pick on, and hate on. They know this. So they lie, and bear false witness. This all the more reason why EDNA and the recently pass hate crimes measure from Congress must become law. They already feel like we're so powerful, and their the victims? Yeah, right! So this all the more reason why sooner than later EDNA and the Matthew Shepard Act will become law! Bush will not be there to save them always! They know this. These new laws are coming, you ready?

Barack Obama teams with Ex-gay Donnie McClurkin: More homophobes on tour, and responses from Donnie and Obama!!!

I'm running real late on this story. I have been hearing about it all day, and I felt i need to add my two cents. So it's already been confirm that Democratic White House hopeful Sen. Barack Obama has decided to have a gospel tour with reclosted homosexual Donnie McClurkin.

Here's the release:All three of the dates of the “Embrace the Change” tour are in South Carolina, where Mr. Obama is locked in battle with Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton for black voters.

Gospel acts including Mary Mary, Donnie McClurkin and Hezekiah Walker, Byron Cage and the Mighty Clouds of Joy are scheduled to appear.

“This is another example of how Barack Obama is defying conventional wisdom about how politics is done and giving new meaning to meeting people at the grassroots level,” Joshua DuBois, the campaign’s religious affairs director, said in a release. “This concert tour is going to bring new people into the political process and engage people of faith in an unprecedented way.”

Donnie is on record for saying sexual orientation is choice, also says you can pray the gay away. Donnie goes even lower with comparing gays to liars!

Heres a few quotes:McClurkin explains, "There are certain things like, you know, anybody who has a lying problem; they get to the point where they hate being so, having such a lack of character that they make a change."

In the same interview, McClurkin argues again that homosexuality is simply a lifestyle choice. "There's a group that says, 'God made us this way,' but then there's another group that knows God didn't make them that way," he says. Notice the circularity in his rhetoric. The people who say that God made them gay don't know what they're talking about because the people who say God did not make them gay are right. Well how do they know if someone was born gay or not if they are not gay themselves? It's insulting and presumptuous of others to tell gays and lesbians that they're not smart enough even to know who they are.

Just for the record Donnie is still unmarried, and he has church called Perfecting Faith Church in New York. Donnie is a Bush supporter. Many have said since Donnie performed and support Republican like President Bush, why is he performing for a Democrat? That's a answer only Donnie can give you. Donnie argues that us the gays who say that God made us with our sexual orientation is liars. I can only say that Donnie doesn't know what he's talking about at all! He claims to be deliver, but still single, and unmarried. I wonder why? Surely if you're deliver, then you should be able to function as a heterosexual, right?

There are more homophobes on this tour like gospel group Mary Mary (Erica and Tina Atkins), their confirm for the tour. Here's their quotes on how they feel about gays with comparing us to murderers and prostitutes, a Clay Cane interview:

Clay: I’m not sure if you are aware of this, but you have an extremely large gay following -- how do you feel about homosexuality and having a massive gay following?

Erica: We are aware. Ummm... how do I feel about homosexuality? I feel how God feels about it, but I still love them. I don’t agree with the lifestyle, but I love them. They can come to the concert; I’m going to hug them just like I hug everybody else. They have issues and need someone to encourage them like everybody else -- just like the murderer, just like the one full of pride, just like the prostitute -- everybody needs God. What your struggle is may not be what my struggle is, but we all need Him. So, that's what our music is about giving and God, not to condone the lifestyle or to say, Oh it's okay, but not to bash -- but just to give them God. I mean, I’m appreciative of all of our supporters and fans. Hopefully what their hearing in our music is my love for God.

Tina: You know, I think the fact that our music is very upbeat and works well in clubs -- you know, I think that's something that makes more people gravitate to it. Like Erica said, we don’t necessarily agree with the lifestyle, but we don’t pride ourselves on bashing. Everyone has things in their life that they need to correct, everybody has struggles, everybody has things that, maybe I should’ve done it this way, maybe I should’ve made this choice, you know, or whatever. Even though that's the way we feel, we don’t bash, we don’t do that kind of thing and we embrace everybody who enjoys our music. Hopefully our music is impacting them in a way that if they see there's some things in their life that's not quite right and doesn’t align themselves with what the Bible says -- hopefully our music impacts them in a way that makes them want to change it.

So they feel how God feels right? As my friend Jerry said: The bible is NOT God! Too many contradictions to be on God's level!

Donnie McClurkin responds with some back-tracking on his beliefs: Gospel music superstar Donnie McClurkin says he was surprised to wake up Tuesday morning to a media firestorm.

... McClurkin told The Associated Press on Monday that "sexuality, everything is a matter of choice." But on Tuesday he told the Tribune that his ideals, and most importantly his ministry, were severely misconstrued.
"I don't believe that even from a religious point of view that Jesus ever discriminated toward anyone, nor do I," McClurkin said in an exclusive interview with the Tribune. "Most of the things that were said were totally out of context and then other things weren't true."

Ok, Donnie do you know what you said in the past? Like here:McClurkin has devoted his life to saving children from the cult-like snares of the homosexual recruiters. "The gloves are off," he told the 700 Club. "And if there's going to be a war, there's going to be a war."

What about comparing us [gays] to liars: McClurkin explains, "There are certain things like, you know, anybody who has a lying problem; they get to the point where they hate being so, having such a lack of character that they make a change."

Donnie seems to have forgotten his quotes of the past. Obama issued his thoughts early this evening:

About 6:40 pm today, the Obama campaign issued a written statement from the candidate saying that he "strongly disagree(s)" with McClurkin's views. Still, a spokesman said McClurkin would remain part of the concert line-up.

"I have clearly stated my belief that gays and lesbians are our brothers and sisters and should be provided the respect, dignity, and rights of all other citizens. I have consistently spoken directly to African-American religious leaders about the need to overcome the homophobia that persists in some parts our community so that we can confront issues like HIV/AIDS and broaden the reach of equal rights in this country," Obama said in the written statement.

"I strongly believe that African Americans and the LGBT community must stand together in the fight for equal rights. And so I strongly disagree with Reverend McClurkin's views and will continue to fight for these rights as President of the United States to ensure that America is a country that spreads tolerance instead of division," the statement added.

Justice MH: I feel that Obama should have been smarter with who he wanted on this gospel tour in South Carolina. Who ever is on his campaign staff needs to be fired. This is forgivable, but i have to admit, it has push me some towards Hillary Clinton. I bet she having a ball watching this happen to obama. Obama still has me on the fence, I just hope next time think who before you invited those who inaccurate views on your supporters. Obama has what it takes to be President, and yes Captain, Obama will be President some day in the future. I hope this comes out in best interest of Obama's chances of becoming the Democratic nominee!

IF YOU HATE GAYS, YOU COULD VERY WELL BE ONE

From Video Author: This clip was taken from the HBO documentary, Middle Sexes- Redefining He and She.

Just my two-cents worth, but this study goes along perfectly and supports what most gay men have known for centuries, that, most homophobes are actually closet homosexuals fighting against the religious and societal pressures and prejudices inside themselves they grew up with. This knowledge has not come to us homosexuals through studies or even "gaydar" but from countless sexual experiences with closeted gays and homophobes. Some of us do talk after sex. :0)


Again, I say MOST, not ALL.

The beauty of this documentary is that it gives insight into the hearts and minds of those who express moral outrage at homosexuality, their secret participation in same-gender sex, and their denial of their tendencies.

The point of posting this video is to get homophobes and those outraged by homosexuality to stop and think about what they may be in fact projecting when they go gay bashing, whether it be in word or deed.

Justice MH's Final Thoughts: I truly feel that with religion and majority of society demonizing same-sex attractions/desires makes people hate, fear and possibly leads to other destructive/outrageous behaviors to hide their same-sex tendencies. This leads to denial, rage, hate, fear, and the need to suppress openly gays to keep their same-gender attractions and desires lock up. Take for example Sen.Larry Craig, he engage in bathroom sex cruising, and voted against the hate crimes[matthew Shepard Act]. These type of sexually conflicted people you see are by-products of dogma from religion, and bias attitudes from society!

This video gives insight of the very things I always say about self-loathing gays/bi-sexuals: For what they do, they love and hate it at the same time!

[Updates/Posts to come in late evening!-Justice MH!]

Tonight on ABC: Boston Legal Tackles "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"

The Emmy Award-winning drama Boston Legal tackles discrimination, homophobia and “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” tonight on ABC.

Tonight’s episode, titled Do Tell, involves the case of law partner Denny Crane’s Army buddy, General “Fitz” Fitzgerald. Fitz shows up at the law firm of Crane Poole & Schmidt to tell Denny that he is gay . . . and he’s being discharged under “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.” While Denny grapples with the surprising news about his friend’s sexual orientation, Shirley Schmidt (played by Emmy winner Candice Bergen) takes up Fitz’s case, suing the Army and challenging “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” in court.

Boston Legal airs tonight at 10pm EST on ABC. Don't miss it!!!

USA Survey/New Book: Cafeteria Evangelical Christians running Youth away from Christianity!!!

Since I'm part of the next generation, it's no surprise to see my generation question the dogma churches try to feed youth today. This study was done by Barna Study Group, and the group is widely quoted by conservative christian groups, groups like AFA to news sources like OneNewsNow. Young people are taking a good look at Christianity, and groups like AFA make this great faith look bad. Young people see it as i do, judgmental, hypocritical, and anti-gay! Take a look at a summary of the report:

A new study by The Barna Group conducted among 16- to 29-year-olds shows that a new generation is more skeptical of and resistant to Christianity than were people of the same age just a decade ago.

...Half of young churchgoers said they perceive Christianity to be judgmental, hypocritical, and too political. One-third said it was old-fashioned and out of touch with reality.

Interestingly, the study discovered a new image that has steadily grown in prominence over the last decade. Today, the most common perception is that present-day Christianity is "anti-homosexual." Overall, 91% of young non-Christians and 80% of young churchgoers say this phrase describes Christianity. As the research probed this perception, non-Christians and Christians explained that beyond their recognition that Christians oppose homosexuality, they believe that Christians show excessive contempt and unloving attitudes towards gays and lesbians. One of the most frequent criticisms of young Christians was that they believe the church has made homosexuality a "bigger sin" than anything else. Moreover, they claim that the church has not helped them apply the biblical teaching on homosexuality to their friendships with gays and lesbians.

Justice MH: Young People are using their intellect and reason to question the dogma that brainwashes them to have negative attitudes towards gays, and they also see how judgmental and hypocritical so-called Christians make Christianity look! Christ talks alot about this, but groups like AFA feel like their hate-crusade is approve by Jesus Christ himself, which I highly doubt! Cafeteria Christians throw out ridiculous phrases like "love the sinner, but hate sin". It's time for them to repent of their sins, shape up, or ship out!It's phrases like this, that give these Christians affirmation for their negative thoughts and feelings toward their fellow man. Today's young people are smarter, it's like I said, and the christian "wrong" fear this. My generation is gonna change America, for the better!

Running Late on Posts!!!

I'm starting the week off bad, but i have some posts in mind to put on the site, so i'll have some up in the late evening!

"Ex-Gay= Ex-Wife --- The Survivors Speak out!!!

This Truth Wins Out video tells the story of four courageous women who married closeted gay men. They had no idea that their husbands were "ex-gay" and the experience was traumatizing.

In this exclusive National Coming Out Day video, these survivors warn about the harm done by ex-gay programs that promote marriage as a cure for homosexuality - whether explicitly or implicitly. Not only do these marriages almost always fail, but they hurt the innocent spouses and children and treat them as props or collateral damage. While ex-gay organizations, such as Exodus and Focus on the Family, love to show the wedding pictures, they never show you the divorce papers. This video is a powerful reality check and a warning for those who would marry thinking that it will help them go from gay to straight.

If You Are A Spouse Dealing With This Issue, Please Visit:
www.straightspouse.org
www.gayhusbands.com

Justice MH: I always say praying away the gay does not work. Sexual orientation is innate! Truth is truth!

Movie Trailer:For The Bible Tells Me So!!!

From the video Author:This is a trailer for the film For The Bible Tells Me So, a provocative documentary that reconciles homosexuality and Biblical scripture. Through the experiences of five families, we discover how insightful people of faith handle the realization of having a gay child. Informed by such respected voices as Bishop Desmond Tutu, Orthodox Rabbi Steve Greenberg and Reverend Jimmy Creech, FOR THE BIBLE TELLS ME SO offers healing and understanding to anyone caught in the crosshairs of scripture and sexual identity.

This movie will give a closer look at those six passages used to demonize gays. For centuries many in Christianity have used any verse in the bible to affirm their bias negative attitudes.

In my view the phrase "For the bible tell me so" seems dangerous. Religion has created many religious freaks and dogmatic groups.

However, the movie above seems interesting, and i'll have to check out here in Atlanta!

Enjoy the trailer.

Running Late on Posts!!!

Unfortunately, something came up, and I have to delay on posts. However, i will update in the evening of today. Until then......

Question: If you're a Christian how do you reconcile scientific findings and what the bible says? Do you ignore scientific proof and research to sustain your faith? Do you balance it out with reason?

The reason why I'm asking these question is how The View co-host Sherri Shepard answer the question of whether the earth was flat or round. Scientific research confirm it's round, and the church and the bible just got it wrong. So answer the questions above honestly!!!

Justice MH's Hiatus is Over!!!

My Hiatus is over. It's been as of now a week since I updated the site. Later in the evening I will post my first "Random Thoughts" for the week. Randoms thoughts covering why I haven't posted for a week, thoughts on whats in the news, and things I just feel the need to touch up on before the weekend starts. That Post is for later in the evening! Thanks!

U.S Senate passes Hate Crime Bill!!

The Democratic-Control Senate passed the hate crimes bill as an amendment to the Defense bill for the Iraq War. In a 60-39 vote to proceed to adoption, the Senate approved Senator Kennedy's amendment which adds sexual orientation, gender identity and disability to the existing hate crimes legislation.

Democrats in their 51 majority supported the bill. Only 9 Republicans move across the line to support the amendment.

John Warner
Richard Lugar
Susan Collins
Olympia Snowe
George Voinovich
Arlen Specter
Judd Gregg
Norm Coleman
Gordon Smith (co-sponsor)

Also the two hypocritical GOP who didn't vote are:Toe Tapping Sen. Larry Craig, and Adulter Sen. Dave Vitter.

HRC's President Joe Solmonese said the following:

For over a decade our community has worked tirelessly to ensure protections to combat violence motivated by hate and today we are the closest we have ever been to seeing that become a reality. Congress has taken an historic step forward and moved our country closer to the realization that all Americans, including the GLBT community, are part of the fabric of our nation. The new leadership in Congress fully understands that for too long our community has been terrorized by hate violence. And today, the US Senate has sent a clear message to every corner of our country that we will no longer turn a blind eye to anti-gay violence in America.

Justice MH: Bush may veto this bill. However, we'll just keeping trying again, again, and again. Eventually it will become law! You have lose some to win some!

U.S Senate expected to vote on Hate Crimes Bill this Thursday!!!

The time is here. The slim Democratic-control Senate is expected to vote on S. 1105-Matthew Shepard Act. Chris Johnson at HRC Back Story reports that Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) filed a cloture motion to force a vote on S. 1105.We need 60 votes in order to override the objection filed by Sen.John MCcain.The hate crimes bill was tacked onto the defense authorization bill to get it pass our misguided controlled President Bush.

Lead sponsor of the Senate bill, Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA) released a statement of his floor speech urging passage of S. 1105. I would like to note here that there are Republicans supporting this bill, not just Democrats.

As we prepare for a showdown over this bill, expect the scare tactics and nonsense from the so-called oppress Christians, who fear their rights are being taken aways.
Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson is at it again with the nonsense (where was he and his black bigoted Friends at on free Jena 6 march?). Read his latest quotes on the hate crimes bill in a bearing false witness tone/words:

A black conservative leader is calling on Christians to contact their U.S. senators and ask them to vote against a bill that would give special rights to homosexuals and take away the rights of Christians.

Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson is founder and president of the Brotherhood Organization of a New Destiny (BOND). Peterson was recently in Washington, DC, to lobby senators to vote against Senate Bill 1105 -- a bill that would provide federal assistance for the prosecution of any crime that is "motivated by prejudice based on the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability of the victim." The legislation is sponsored by Senator Ted Kennedy (D-Massachusetts).

According to Peterson, if S.B. 1105 ultimately passes, it would greatly affect Christians' free-speech rights. For example, Peterson contends that under the new provisions, Christian pastors could be forced to perform same-sex "marriages" -- and if they refuse, Petersen is convinced they will be criminalized and fined.

Now he know he sound like a drama queen, and a lieing one at that. There many racist christian groups and white supremacist groups that still have their free speech and rights. They march in parades, and register their groups. So where is he getting this from? He has presented no where in the bill where their rights's of speech is objected.

Justice MH: These are the type of blacks, white Evangelical conservative Christians love to use for their agenda. Sylvia Rhue of the National Black Justice Coalition and Cornel West have a piece in the Boston Globe that shows how hate can be disguise in a religious sheet of hypocrisy and lies:

Unfortunately, some clergy across the nation have joined together to oppose this bill in an aggressive and divisive manner. For instance, conservative African-American leaders - most notably Bishop Harry Jackson of Maryland's Hope Christian Church - have been inundating the media and faith communities with the message that this legislation will allow police to storm into worship services and arrest clergy if they speak against being gay. They make the incendiary allegation that the bill will create "thought crimes" by punishing people for thinking ill of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people.

The truth is that the Matthew Shepard Act protects all First Amendment rights. And, although that is a given, this bill goes out of its way to protect the free speech of ministers. Those pastors who wish to continue condemning and dehumanizing the gay community will be free to do so.

The hate crimes bill provides resources for the investigation of violent actions - not beliefs, thoughts, or words. The proposed federal statute does not punish nor prohibit free expression of one's religious beliefs. As University of Chicago law professor Geoffrey R. Stone recently concluded, "The argument of the pastors that the proposed legislation in any way threatens their right to preach their version of the Gospel is, to be frank, ridiculous."

...These preachers don't care to hear the thousands of stories of lives and communities scarred by antigay violence. And, conveniently, those who bring up the reality that the Matthew Shepard Act is a constitutional and important means to prevent antigay violence are labeled by these clergy as "anti-Christian." The good intentions of this legislation have been greeted by malice by these manipulators of fact.
The efforts of antigay preachers and their supporters is not the way to create the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s vision of a "Beloved Community" - where we all strive to treat each other with respect and compassion.

Justice MH: If they can e-mail, and fax their Senators up to the nose, then so can we.Call the Capital switchboard at (202) 224-3121, and tell your Senator to help pass this important bill. Final Note: If we don't get the bill pass in the Senate, then we'll just keep trying again, again, and again. Eventually it will pass, most likely this time or next time. We have all the cards, let's just hope they play out correctly!

Southern Baptist's Richard Land Vs. Focus on the Family's James Dobson over Fred Thompson!!!

I agree with blender Pam , let's put these two in a steel-cage match, but it's nothing but a typical fundamentalist cat fight! Recently, Dr.Dobson has brought down his fiery judgment on Fred Thompson in an personal e-mail that contain his personal view of Fred:

Isn't Thompson the candidate who is opposed to a Constitutional amendment to protect marriage, believes there should be 50 different definitions of marriage in the U.S., favors McCain-Feingold, won't talk at all about what he believes, and can't speak his way out of a paper bag on the campaign trail?" Dobson wrote.

"He has no passion, no zeal, and no apparent 'want to.' And yet he is apparently the Great Hope that burns in the breasts of many conservative Christians? Well, not for me, my brothers. Not for me!"

I never thought i would do this, but i agree with Dobson. If you want to appeal to these fake Christ followers, then you have to be passionate in your zeal, dogma, bias, and intolerance. If you're not in more than one category, then Dobson won't support you.

Now Dobson has a challenger in his own ranks,Richard Land, president of the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist, and he came to Fred's rescue:

I’ve received phone calls and emails from Southern Baptists about Senator Thompson. They are all furious at Doctor Dobson. They just feel that first of all there was a mischaracterizing of his positions. Do I wish that he supported the marriage protection amendment? Of course I do. To say that he is for 50 different views of marriage in 50 different states is a gross mischaracterization of his position. Secondly, do I wish that he attended church every Sunday? As a Baptist pastor, of course I do. But does that make him a person of unbelief? That’s harsh and unwarranted.”

Dr. Land argues that Dobson is NOT seeing Fred for what he really is. However, I agree with Dobson, something i never do, but for this one time i will. Fred is NOT conservative has he wants to appear for the conservative base. Dr.Land wants to make Fred to sound good to the conservative base of the GOP party. Read how he paints a picture of values out of Fred:

“Fred Thompson grew up in a very modest means in a small town in America just like Ronald Reagan grew up in very modest means in a small town in Illinois. You acquire not only an understanding of but a respect for everyday folk when you come from the background that you don’t get otherwise and people sense it. That this is a guy who respects me, a guy who understands that we are the backbone of this country, we are the salt of the Earth and he not only understands us, he’s one of us. He’s a successful one of us but he’s one of us and they trust a guy like that. They give a guy like that a larger margin of error. Nobody gets everything right but its core values. My assessment is that this guy is a whole much like Reagan including his Teflon quality. The press has been beating up with him for these types of gaffes and he continues to climb in the polls.”

Justice MH: Fred is NOT the saviour of the conservative base that Dr.Land so badly wants. In fact, the GOP field doesn't look like they have it together. The GOP party in my view, doesn't have control of this election in 2008. So Conservatives can keep fighting among each other Romney, Rudy, MCain, and even Fred will NOT save you!

Has the NAACP lost their Mission?

Well, Mr.Broward thinks the NAACP should stick to racial injustice, and have nothing to do with the gays' struggle. The NAACP is quite aware of black gays and lesbians. The organization is a black one, so why not include gays who are black? This man misses the mark like so many black religious leaders. Here's his bigoted quote:


'The NAACP is getting away from their mission . . . the organization never got involved with sex sins. Homosexuals have masterfully redefined words to suit their cause . . . theirs is not a civil rights issue. It's the first time the branch has taken a public stand on behalf of gay rights."
--Mathes Guice, the paramilitary-clad director of the men's ministry at Koinonia Worship Center and former vice president of the Broward NAACP. He is miffed at the Broward NAACP's condemnation of his new best friend -- anti-gay, homosex-obsessed Fort Lauderdale Mayor Jim Naugle. Guice is also calling for a ''spiritual revival'' to "transform Fort Lauderdale and Broward County into the Bible Belt of South Florida.''

Justice MH: This man obviously thinks homosexuals don't have brown or dark skin. The Civil rights movements included black straights and gays. Now he can deny it if he wants, but the gays' struggle in the 21st century is a civil rights issue. Some will argue, but their arguments are weak, bias, and desperate. The definition of Civil rights is: Rights guaranteed to citizens; the rights provided by the 13th and 14th amendments of the United States Constitution. Homosexuals just happen to be tax-paying American citizens. It's like I said on this site many times: " you have the right to speak freely on any issue, but you do NOT have the right to deny any American the citizen their rights guaranteed by the U.S Constitution. Mrs. Coretta Scott King always refer to her husband's famous quote "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice anywhere".

The "View"s Co-Host Sherri Shepard": Doesn't know if earth is round or flat in the year 2007???

Sherri Shepherd has proven to me and others that when the bible is proven to be wrong or when it makes a boo-boo, then biblical perfections like sherri refuse to admit the book is wrong on this issue. Another note on those like sherri is they prove political consultants right, that Americans are easily proven to be ignorant. They vote poor leaders into office, who lead us into a senseless war like George W.Bush. I agree with fellow blogger claycane, sherri is the dumb negro of the week. I also agree with him on why do some Christans act like the bible is some accurate historical document? Well, you can call it blind faith, faith is good, but blind faith makes people believe things without enough proof or reason in it!

Take a look at this exchange with Whoopi and sherri, and see what i'm talkin about with having blind faith with no reason at all:

WHOOPI GOLDBERG: Is the world flat?
SHERRI SHEPHERD: Is the world flat? (laughter)
GOLDBERG: Yes.
SHEPHERD: …I Don't know.
GOLDBERG: What do you think?
SHEPHERD: I… I never thought about it, Whoopi. Is the world flat? I never thought about it.

Take a look at the video at this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ACobXN7_p8

Now that's a cop-out. Sherri doesn't want to admit the bible is wrong or made a mistake. I always said this and people close to me don't like it but:" If the bible was inspired, then the holy spirit is the author of error". Too many Christians are in denial! Take a look at Elisabeth Hasselbeck's poor defense of sherri:

HASSELBECK: I don’t think you have to learn to be perfect either… you’re just yourself. I thought you handled that so well yesterday. You said ‘You know I actually, my mind is full of what’s my son doing right now, what am I going to feed him for dinner, I’m a mom.’ Like I think that’s completely fine to say ‘You know what, today I don’t care if the earth is round or flat. I may not care tomorrow, I just wanna know that…’

Justice: When most Christians want to make it look like the bible is always accurate and correct like God, they make themselves look like fools.The bible has been shown to have contradictions and inconsistencies, and falsehoods[ex.earth is flat]! Note to Sherri: The earth is round. The bible just made a boo-boo/mistake. Get over it!

Take a look at Clay Cane's pic of Sherri's response base on her facial expression:

CHRISTIANITY AND LGBT PEOPLE: AN INTERVIEW !

[Here's another Jerry Maneker guest post. Christianity, the bible, and homosexuality all roll into one. It's worth the read! Enjoy-Justice MH!]

By: Jerry Maneker

On August 3, 2007, I was asked to give an interview on a listener sponsored radio station on the subject of "Christianity and Gay Rights." The following article encompassing that interview appears in the current issue of the excellent website, Whosoever.org that is a Christian site edited by my friend Rev. Candace Chellew Hodge that is primarily geared to LGBT people and allies.

This is the substance of the interview that I gave, and that I thought you might want to read here.

I want to reiterate my position in this context, that there is complete consistency between being a Christian and being Gay! As my friend, Rev. Troy Perry beautifully said, "Jesus came to take away our sins. Not our sexuality!"

The distortions that have been promulgated from assorted pulpits and media outlets by professing Christians condeming Gay people are not only dead wrong, but are unbiblical and unGodly!

We are to never allow their ignorance and/or desire for material and/or political and/or psychological and/or social and/or career gains to trump the truth of the only Gospel to be found in Christianity: The Gospel of grace, faith, love, peace, reconciliation, and inclusiveness!

The following is the article:

"Christianity and LGBT People: A Teaching Summary"
By: Rev. Dr. Jerry S. Maneker

Recently, I was asked to give an interview on a public listener sponsored radio station that largely has as its audience rather politically progressive people, most of whom can be expected to have an understandable disdain for anything "Christian."

Given the fact that most of the organized Church has been so enmeshed with the interests of the State, tenaciously adhering to the status quo, and has embarrassingly been in the vanguard of historically providing "justification" for the oppression of all sorts of minority groups, such as women and, in the not too distant past, Afro-Americans, I very much welcomed this invitation, and sought to show how Christianity has been perverted by its all too frequent identification with Americanism, militarism, and capitalism; how there was absolutely nothing in the Bible that condemns same-sex love and, in fact, the Bible actually affirms same-sex love. I clearly wanted to dispel the false notion held by many that Christians are a bunch of harsh, censorious, judgmental people, and sought to credibly present the Gospel, both in and of itself, as well as present it in the context of the lives of LGBT people and same-sex love.

I made the distinction, first suggested to me by my friend Bishop Leland Somers, between the Christian Church and the Constantinian Church, the latter initiated when Constantine, in the fourth Century, made Christianity a State religion. We have yet to recover from that debacle.

The Christian Church extols the only Gospel to be found in Christianity: the Gospel of grace, and those who are Christians indeed seek to be agents of God's grace in this world to try to make the earth, in the words of St. Augustine, "a colony of heaven." The Constantinian Church, on the other hand, has historically aligned itself with Empire and the oppression of others for assorted psychological and/or social and/or political and/or material gain.

The Christian Church, comprised of the world wide body of believers who seek to live out the Gospel, should have no affinity with the Constantinian Church; to the degree that Christians who belong to Christ find themselves within its clutches, I strongly urge that they flee those churches and/or denominations, and either find a Christian church that reinforces our need and Godly mandate to live out the only Gospel to be found in Christianity: the Gospel of grace (God's unmerited favor to us), faith (trusting God over and above seen circumstances), love, peace, reconciliation, and inclusiveness or, absent that option, form their own worship communities, or even, if necessary, worship God alone "in spirit and in truth," thereby avoiding the toxic, soul-destroying, churches that have aligned themselves with Empire and oppression that are diametrically opposed to Jesus' Commandments for us to love God and to love others, including our enemies, as much as we love ourselves.

The following, although not a literal rendering of my responses to the questions asked of me, which followed a conversational style, reflect what I said on that program, and I thought you might find them of interest, and might want to adopt some or all of them in your interaction with others who feel that God can't possibly love LGBT people, and who have a distorted view of Christianity, tragically given how it has been portrayed in the mainstream media, and how much, if not most, of the organized Church has been "infiltrated" by the influence of those who really belong, and are best consigned, to the Constantinian Church.

How do you define Christianity?

The Gospel means: Good News! The good news is that we are God's children by God's grace alone (unmerited favor) and we appropriate that grace through our abiding faith (implacable trust) in God (i.e. trusting God over and above seen circumstances), love, peace, reconciliation, and inclusiveness! That's the only Gospel to be found in Christianity.

Unfortunately, we are primarily exposed to the false gospel of legalism, perfectionism, and exclusion, a false gospel that is diametrically opposed to the good news, to Christianity itself. Far too many propound the gospel of genital placement, rather than the Gospel of Christ; ignore such egregious sins as unjust war, poverty, and disease.

That's undoubtedly why so many intelligent, sensitive, and decent people want nothing to do with Christianity, and even resent it (and who can blame them?), because so many have never been exposed to it, either by word or by deed, and relate it to a harsh, censorious religion which is diametrically opposed to what Christianity really is. In Christianity, all of the Commandments are fulfilled by loving God and by loving others! These are the only Commandments Jesus gives us! We are to never judge or condemn others! (Mt. 7:1; Romans 2:1)

What are some of the basic Bible quotes you've heard used by religious leaders to demonize LGBT people?

First of all, a tribal society, living on the edge, and surrounded by enemies must be "fruitful and multiply" if it is going to survive! Therefore, under those conditions, there is no premium placed on homosexual activity! However, we are no longer a tribal society living on the edge; it's inappropriate to blindly translate the cultural practices of ancient societies to contemporary society as to do so cheapens the Bible; is intellectually and spiritually dishonest; the Bible never makes such a claim for itself. Biblical principle of freedom from yokes of bondage must always trump biblical practice!

Gen. 19-The Sin of Sodom: It has absolutely nothing to do with homosexuality. It has to do with attempted gang rape! One would have to assume that all the men of Sodom were gay, which is foolish on its face; if the 2 angels that visited Lot had been women, I doubt that the homophobic religious leaders would be condemning heterosexuality. Whenever Sodom and Gomorrah are mentioned in the Bible, homosexuality is never mentioned as its sin. Inhospitality and not taking care of the poor were its major sins! In Jude, in the NT, in referring to Sodom and Gomorrah, "giving themselves over to fornication" and going after "strange flesh" are mentioned, but "strange flesh" probably meant the men seeking to gang rape angels and not human beings.

Lev. 18:22-"Thou shalt not lie with a man as with a woman. It is an abomination." If homosexuality were being condemned here, beyond the fact that women would have also likely been included in the prohibition, all that the writer would have had to write is, "Thou shalt not lie with a man. It's an abomination." Everyone knows what "to lie with" means, and they certainly knew its meaning.

To add, "as with a woman," only makes sense if we understand the inferior status of women in that society, so that it was viewed as shameful, an abomination, for a man to act like a woman. Also, these laws in Leviticus are part of the purity laws in the OT that don't apply to Christians. If we really want to follow the OT law, we couldn't play football, as we couldn't touch the skin of a dead pig; we couldn't wear mixed fibers in our clothes; we couldn't be near a menstruating woman; we couldn't eat shell fish; we would stone adulterers to death; we would stone to death those who work on the Sabbath etc. I don't hear homophobic religious leaders seeking to impose these laws on others! At least, not yet!

Romans 1:27-32--- But they never read Romans 2:1 that provides the context for the above passages. Also, in Rom. 1:26-27, "against nature" (para physin in the Greek) is also used when God brought the Gentiles into the fold (Romans 11:21-24). This term is probably best translated as "unexpected," or "something not done in the usual way."

Also, you'll notice that the men and women spoken of here "gave up" the natural use of the member of the opposite sex. They "gave up" what was natural for them and then engaged in sexual behavior that was unnatural for them. Paul is not talking here of homosexuals, but of heterosexuals who gave it up and acted in ways that were not natural to them so as to worship pagan deities, after they had first turned their backs on God.

1 Corinthians 6:9-'Malakoi" is frequently mistranslated "effeminate," as it means "soft," and is used elsewhere in the Bible (in Luke) to denote soft clothing. In this context it probably means "people with soft morals" or "people who lack courage." There is no warrant to translate it as effeminate.

It's important in this context to point out that the word, "homosexual," never appears in any biblical manuscript, as it is a term coined in the late 19th Century. The first time it appeared in an English translation of the Bible was in the 1946 RSV. It is translated from the Greek word, "arsenokoitai," which is an obscure word that does not seem to be found in other Ancient literature, and that seems to only have been used by the Apostle Paul. It literally means, "male beds."

In the context Paul uses that term it seems to be where male cult prostitution is practiced-e.g. heterosexual and homosexual sex in homage to assorted pagan deities, such as those related to fertility, to have the crops grow. Paul undoubtedly wrote the Book of Romans from Corinth where there were many pagan religions, such as the fertility cult of Aphrodite, where such pagan deities were worshipped in this fashion, so it's most likely that it is to that practice that he's referring, and is not in any way condemning same-sex love, or even dealing with sexual orientation.

Nowhere is same-sex love condemned in the Bible! In fact, it is affirmed, most notably in the case of King David (called "a man after God's own heart") and Jonathan. Even a cursory reading of their relationship in 1Samuel shows David to have been either bisexual or a gay man!

Moreover, if homosexuality was so important, why is it not mentioned in the Ten Commandments; why did the prophets never write about it; why didn't Jesus ever condemn it? If it were that important, don't you think that it would have been mentioned in at least one of these contexts?

Why are most organized Christian church members not accepting LGBT people at their services, while other organized Christian church members are leaving when their church does accept LGBT people?

Joseph Goebbels, Hitler's propaganda minister said something that is, unfortunately, all too true. He said that no matter how big the lie, if it's repeated often enough, people will come to believe it!

Most professing Christians, and others, have been sold a bill of goods by most clergy and their followers in most of the organized Church. The lie that same-sex love is condemned by God because it's in the Bible has been repeated so often, that it has become a virtual axiom that has erroneously come to determine in the minds of many one's standing with God, and has also come to be defined as "immoral," and people have come to believe that lie.

All too many clergy use their pulpits to distort the Bible to be in accord with their own prejudices, and neither they nor their followers seem to see any contradiction between their demonizing Gay people, and presenting and living the Gospel of Jesus, which is diametrically opposed to their hateful and discriminatory rhetoric and/or actions.

Moreover, many fail to realize that even if the Bible condemned LGBT people and same-sex love, which it most definitely does not, civil society in America lives under the U.S. Constitution and not the Bible! Since when do we let others' interpretation of selected biblical passages determine what civil rights accrue to others? There is absolutely no justification for denial of full and equal civil rights, including the right to be civilly (and sacramentally) married, to LGBT people, either constitutionally or even biblically!

In addition, black and white thinking, having an "us against them" mentality, gives many people certain psychological, social, and material benefits. Creating out-groups helps bring members of the in-group together; it gives many people who are uncomfortable with ambiguity and the many grey areas of life "the illusion of certainty" in life; homophobic rhetoric is likely to make members of the in-group feel morally superior at others' expense; such rhetoric may well garner more money in the collection plates. (I would really love to know how much money is garnered each time a mailer is sent out by religious homophobic leaders to their constituents soliciting contributions to "fight against the homosexual agenda." I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's in the millions of dollars.)

Since it's no longer politically correct or socially acceptable to any longer publicly discriminate against women, or Afro-Americans as occurred by many clergy and other professing Christians in the not too distant past, LGBT people have become the enemy de jour, and are blamed by certain professing Christians for everything from "the breakdown of the family" to Hurricane Katrina.

It's very important for professing Christians and all others to realize that just because one attends church, or just because one is called "Reverend," and has his or her collar turned around, doesn't necessarily make that person a Christian! Just because I go into a garage doesn't make me a car!

I truly hope that some or all of these points, although perhaps familiar to many of us, can be of use to you as you witness to others the truth of the Christian life as it relates to the living out of the Gospel, and as it relates to the fact that God makes LGBT people whom, like His other children, He chose before the worlds were formed (Ephesians 1:4-5) to be His own possession, and whom He loves like crazy!