Thursday, September 6, 2007

GOP debate on Gay Marriage question: Audience boos Sen. Sam Brownback's Proposal!!

Last night's debate for the GOP white house hopefuls came expectedly to the Marriage equality question. Correspondent Carl Cameron asked a New Hampshire woman whether she wanted gay marriage banned. Her answer—“Absolutely not. We're the state of 'live free or die' and people should be able to marry the person they love"—received wide cheers from the audience.

Moderator Brit Hume asked the same question to third tier, social conservative candidate Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS):

"The answer to that is yes. And the reason is, this is a foundational institution. It is a foundational institution."I think this is important for us to rebuild the family structure. In countries that have redefined marriage, where they’ve said, okay, it’s not just a man and a woman, it can be two men, two women, the marriage rates in those countries have plummeted to where you have counties now in Northern Europe where 80 percent of the first-born children are born out of wedlock. We don’t need more children born out of wedlock; we need more children born into wedlock between a mom and a dad bonded together for life.
When you do these vast social experiments — and that’s what this is, when you redefine marriage. It’s a vast social experiment. They’re not done in isolation. They impact the rest of the culture around you. When you take the sacredness out of marriage, you will drive the marriage rates down. And currently in this country, currently we’re at 36 percent of our children born out of wedlock. You can raise a good child in that setting, but we know the best place is between a mom and a dad bonded together for life".

Justice MH: Those so-called "social experiments are our loving relationships. What is with this "redefining" marriage"? Marriage has change throughout the centries. In fact marriage has a insane history, the bible shares some of that history. Marriage is simply being extended and including same-sex couples, surely not being redefined.

What Sen.Brownback has proven is that he will scapegoat gay people's sexual orientation and relationships to score political points and political power. The rates he quoted are questionable, but like many peolple have said: What does gay people and their relationships have to do with his arguments? Doesn't it take two to tangle? He needs to stop the bullsh*t, because it's barely flying without getting smacked down.

If Sen. Brownback wants to end the breakdown of marriage and the family then ban divorce. Heterosexual marriages already end over a 50% rate. Sen.Brownback can also help end poverty, it also has sn affect on marriages. What about domestic violence Sen.Brownback? I rather decrease violence in heterosexual marriages then scapegoating same-sex couple's access to marriage.

Sen.Brownback is a typical Republican looking to play on the American people's fears, and superstitous ways. This is NOT what a President should be advocating, and should NOT have this high power of leadership of this great democracy that stands for every man is equal.

Sen. Brownback like President Bush is breaking the first Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion.....". The Congress has not broken this wise and sacred law for bias and dogmatic religious beliefs. Sen.Brownback has no chance in hell of being the President of the United States. No chance in hell.

The state of New Hampshire is Democratic, but also a state that practices freedom from discrimnation and injustice. New Hampshire recently passed legislation establishing civil unions and Gov. John Lynch (D) proudly noted his state has "a long and proud tradition taking the lead in opposing discrimination."

One more thing to think about, 40% of America supports marriage equality, and majority [62%] Young votes such as myself support it. Is the religious right and conservative groups fear coming true? Oh believe me it is, but we still have alot of work to do. It appears as the years go by with states that have Marriage equality and civil unions for gay couples, the American people are becoming more comfortable, and scapegoating, fear, and supersitution is wearing off slowly, but surely!

[Updates/posts Tomorrow AM-Justice MH]


Anonymous said...

It will be a very sad day in America if we accept gay marriage.

Justice MH said...

@Captain: Boo-freaking hoo! It will be a sad day for you, and other caferteria christians.

Religion should NOT be focus on the gender of the persons getting married, but wether love and commitment is present!

America is giving long over due equality for tax-paying citizens.

It's what America does, in it's own time! If you don't like it?

Get the fu*k out of this country!

ponoono said...

if gay marriage is "sacred".. why is it that the divorce rate is 50% ????

if Captain wants marriage to be sacred.. go out and lead a campaign to ban DIVORCE.

how sacred is marriage if britney can go out, get drunk, get married, and then get divorced less that 24 hours later ??

right on justice !

Justice MH said...

@ponoono: Captain just like to eating bullsh*t!

Marriage is about love. Love is love!